Friday, 31 July 2009

Timbaland and Danja not on good terms! Time for some deep buzzed discussion...

Timbaland and Danja both have split on bad terms due to burnt bridges.


So...


I've been hearing lately about Timbaland and Danja not on good terms, nor are each others camps.



If you want the story from one of Tim's close friends, go here and read his tweets thoroughly:



Danja Handz let 1man mess up the chemistry and relationships with people that MADE him Larry Live Mike daddy Evans Timbo stay tuned


Status: Confirmed :(


I just wish they can peacefully amicably reconcile to this.

129 Comment(s):

epic said...

lol without tim, danja wouldnt have got this big, it's stupid for dude to break ties

Haze said...

are we sure this is real? i mean if it is real, i like both of these guys so i dont really have to side with one or the other.

epic said...

i wish dudes got back togethor

Venture said...

I think that Danja and Tim are themselves great talent. Yes Tim, as we know can do great on his own, and as can Danja.

But I don't want the reason that they do their separate things happen because of problems.

This is classic situation of a samurai getting trained by his master, and the last training is when the master and the samurai fight to the death. But that is done with honor.

I'm not sure about this.

Anonymous said...

Danja can survive without Tim look at Knock You Down for example Keri sold most of her albums off of that single alone! Danja is stepping out on his own he's out to prove something I have been following Danja ever since he got on, he will do fine on his own. The competition amongst the 2 will be interesting though. Tim and J-Roc sound okay to me, but Tim and Wizz Dumb working together, naahhhh, what Tim needs to do is link back up with either Hannon, King, or even Cory Bold!!!! Danja will continue to improve and quite honestly at the age of 27 I think he has proven a lot so far his resume will only grow from here on out

Venture said...

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Black Arrow said...

Oh man!! The day today is over -.- a really sad day hearing this :(
I was so hoping that they would work again on SV2, but seems that it's not happenin'.
And he Timbo prolly won't co-produce with Wizz Dumb. He never did and I think he never (or rarely) will. But Timbo doesn't really need a co-producer. Most of his best songs were made by him and himself.
Danja's style is very cool. I like his crazy synths. But maybe too crazy and unique for the mainstream audience(?)

I guess it could be a similar situation with Tim & Danja like it was with Tim and Scott Storch.
I just hope that Timbo & Danja get along again and work together.

Frederick said...

that twitter status sounds like gobbledy gook to me can someone read it out to me in plain english? or explain to me what happened!

and is wizz dumb that great? i need to hear more of his work before I can pass judgment. if he did Sebastian's "Diamonds" track, then i'm on board. I wanna hear that track in full

Sir Thulsa BOOM said...

@Fredrick, I think Mike Daddy is implying Danja's lawyer adviced him to do something, and it messed up the relationship between Tim and Danja. I guess we're all gonna wait for Mike Daddy or someone else to say more on that.
As for Diamonds, last I checked that was produced by Hannon. Someone said that on TCC.

Frederick said...

I should have remembered that!

But, I thought Danja was all about being humble and would have known not to do anything to tick Tim off. I suppose Tim is going to be a bit apprehensive about taking in any newcomers after this. I'll be waiting to see Mike's MTV interview

Anonymous said...

Lol good riddens...danja is average at best...danja can't do anything by himself...his beats are basic and all stolen from video games...the dude can't do anything out of the box...tim is a legend...enough said

Wizz Dumb said...
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Black Arrow said...

Wizz...why did u delete your comment?? :(
Peeps have to know what u think about all that hatin!

epic said...

wuzzy goin in on dudes

Wizz Dumb said...

:D<---This is what I think about them--->(O:

Venture said...

Why I got to take a shower at the wrong time? Dammit.

Venture said...

@_@



thats my dazed anime face...

Haze said...
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Venture said...

I second that strange man above me!

Haze said...

Well this topic is rather heated. Keep ur comments coming ppl, and don't judge ppl, some facts are missing...

Hey Wizz!! Wats up? :D

Haze said...

Lol venture, just had to correct my grammar on my comment.. :D

Venture said...

Man I love Grammarcracker teddy bear cookies!

he he he

Black Arrow said...

@Wizz: lol I think my comment was kinda stupid. It should be clear what artists thinks about their haters.

@everybody: so let's stop hating and talking about other producers. Let's focus on Timbo & Danja and this situation going on.
Wizz, maybe u are allowed to say s.th. about this? dunno, I understand if not.

Man, I still can't believe this... :(

Venture said...

What did Wizz say? hmmm... damn my shower!

Anonymous said...

look i personally think tim will always be legendary and i also believe that danja is greatful for the chance that was givin to him now reality is whut tim did in 10 years danja did in 5 its just to show you times are changing and so does the faces of this biz and i think danja's NARS label will exceed as one of the greatest labels to do it especially with his all star roster kc,wyld money and cali stylz and as far as wizz he will be one of the greats as well all he has to do is keep up his grind and dont listen to the haters i personally love both camps they both put out good music and i wish them all the best!!!!!

Venture said...

Hmmm... I think I have a hunch on who that is ^^^

N.A.R.S is going to be a large successful label.

Wizz knows how I feel about him.

I love both camps!

Anonymous said...

Wizz Dumb I respect your music you are staying on your grind and I can't hate on that so I withdraw my comment.

Who knows if there will be any chemistry between you and Tim if you two work together in the future, I am just in shock & awe right now cuz Danja is out the picture, and that is my dude.

All in all, Wizz your music is really good and you are truly blessed with talent, keep doing what you are doing and do not let any comments get in your way.

Look forward to hearing your future productions.

PS who produced Sebastian's Retro?

Anonymous said...

Wizz Dumb I respect your music you are staying on your grind and I can't hate on that so I withdraw my comment.

Who knows if there will be any chemistry between you and Tim if you two work together in the future, I am just in shock & awe right now cuz Danja is out the picture, and that is my dude.

All in all, Wizz your music is really good and you are truly blessed with talent, keep doing what you are doing and do not let any comments get in your way.

Look forward to hearing your future productions.

PS who produced Sebastian's Retro?

Anonymous said...

Lol wizz is garbage...I don't care if he's on this site or not...he sux and danja did what tim did in 10 years in 5? Wow...what a dumb statement...as tim said 'i make classic not just hits" danja has no classics...he's a below average producer...tim has been doing classics when danja was playing with legos...

Venture said...

LOL! Comedy!

Retro was produced by Wizz Dumb. :)

Anonymous said...

And that's why retro lacks production...wizz garbage produced it...*presses the skip track button in the future on cruel intentions for retro*
Back to the drawing board wizz average!
Sebastain might accept average beats,but I sure don't!

TRG said...

This is bad news. Tim & Danja make classic stuff. I was hopeing for another album produced by them. Wizz isnt that great in my opinion. But i'll still hear what he's got in store. I really hope Tim n Danja work out any problems soon so they can go back n make more hits AND classics.

Anonymous said...

Mike Daddy just seems bitter. I would want a little seperation too if I was Danja. You can't make a name for yourself if your always associated with somebody else's work. Plus he was the one that executive produced Keri's album yet no credit was given to him. Check how many times Timothy Mosley pops up and than Nate Hills. He had a more hands on involvement in her project yet Polow and Tim got all the credit. Keri and Danja have more songs in their unreleased catalog than Keri and Tim.

Anonymous said...

Who the fuck is Mike Daddy???

Anonymous said...

Also, and I'm going to come across as a hater, but...what has Tim done lately that's even the LEAST bit interesting, fresh, intriguing, etc.?

Anonymous said...

I'm also shocked of this situation.....I've been following Tim from day one (jodeci era) till now and in my opinion the best collabo i've heard in tim's production style, is with Danja. Tim and Danja should talk this over, cause this is not fair to Danja. Danja helped Tim to produce 2 albums in Tim´s career, FUTURE SEX LOVE SOUND and LOOSE, until now that is the reason why Tim is still strong in the game from 2006. For a producer as Ryan Leslie is hard to compete with Tim if Tim keeps producing hits, but lately i´ve noticed that Tim didn´t produced any hits without Danja and I think this says enough

Haze said...

i agree with you toosy666. I dont think timbo has been churning out anything interesting lately... hope SV2 is worth the wait.l

Venture said...

Please keep the comments coming, we would like to hear your thoughts.

N.L.O said...

i really dont care much... the best stuff they did together was on Furtados & Justin albums...didnt really like the stuff they did on Madonna/Duran/Hilson.

Frederick said...

lmfao

Did nobody enjoy the Timbaland/James Fauntleroy songs as much as I did! Y'all TRIPPIN'! And the Pussycat Dolls tracks were HOT. I bump "Magic" near daily now.

And as for Danja not having any classics, what do you call Justin Timberlake's album? Surely, "My Love" is an urban classic. The other songs might get swept under the rug, but they're still all hot to me.

I can't really judge songs/albums that are two years old, though. All the hype and excitement for the project gets lost in context. But, if it was 2007, I'd be defending the Duran Duran album like no other. Now that it's 2009, not so much. Especially after I've heard dissent from all sides regarding Red Carpet Massacre.

Anonymous said...

and why did the Duran album get like no promotion and like 1 video.....same 4 Madonna.... well she doesnt need promotion but I think only 2 videos were made... and only like 1 timbo single.... 4 minutes.... even recently..with Cornell's album.... I only saw 1 video... and I think evrybody has their own definition of classic... is it a song that gets played in the club, a song that still sees radio airplay...or one that gets constantly put on the ipod playlist... I think the magic of music is partly made thru the chenistry of the artist, producer, engineer, and record all aligning with the stars..cuz if it was as simple as 2 people vibing .... then we'd be on like missy e's 20th album... the truth is artists, producers, etc. are just like us... they have best friends and fall into a perfect situation...but then they wanna move on.... meet new people...get a new sound.... experiment.....realize that every story never has all th facts....ex. MJ. ... OK my DR. PHIL moment is done....... (whew)

Venture said...

Situation is different, bridges were burnt...

Anonymous said...

Danja bet the man who gave birth to him!! It´s sad. He should be grateful to Tim as long as he lives. Had it not been for Tim, he had worked at McDonalds today.

Anonymous said...

sadly nelly furtado's words (on a danja/tim beat) became true - "all good things come to an end" - their work was great, but i think it's okay that it ended now and they are going their seperate ways.
now it's time for danja to pick up a co-producer and make him big like tim did it with him.

chris

S. Anzo said...

First off all, we don't know the whole story so I'm not even going to pretend to know what's going on between them, especially if we're basing this all on some random tweets. But IF it is true, it really really sucks. Both men have such creative minds and each one's work is good on their own, but when those two worked together the outcome was absolutely amazing. Obviously these two couldn't work together forever, you know? The shitty thing about this game is that it is a BUSINESS and that shit always seems to find a way to get between people... and this is one case where I wish it hadn't. But if they ever do work together again, it'll be that much more anticipated and that much more exciting. Until then, I'll have to let that be a thing of the past.. lets see what other creative individuals and teams are doing to create a new sound! Get on it folks!!

Anonymous said...

I agree with Anzo take Hit-Boy and Chase N. Cashe of Surf Club, Hit-Boy all on his own is a monster but when Hit-Boy teams up with Chase N Cashe its a problem!!!

Danja will be fine on his own, his sound is unique

DMR (Daud Mian Rehman) said...

im really sad to be honest. i can't believe this has happened. Danja deserves all the success he is getting. It's about time he goes solo. And everything he does with his own label NARS is dope! Where as, Wizz Dumb should be getting recognized now. Time to fork out the new producers so all the best to Wizz Dumb man! And for the folks who are mixing this shit, learn some safe sex and go fuck yourselfs!

evan said...

This was bound to happen. I just thought it would happen. Wizz Dumb is good to me, but...

My personal thought... Venture is the next one up... dude has insane different production and he has a great personality from what I see on here. Dude is crazy humble.

And Mike "Daddy" Evans is close friend to Tim.

no relation lls

Anonymous said...

Frederick, I think the Tim/Fauntleroy stuff sounds cliche and stale. Nothing of interest there in any respect, to me.

Venture said...

Thank you evan! I really appreciate it! But I'm evil! lol

toosy666... My thoughts on Fauntleroy's stuff, is a little watery to me... I'm allowed to have a opinion on that right?

But as far as Tim and Danja...

Just remember people... stay humble, and watch out for others who can make you fall.

I'm not saying this is what happened, but its good advice I think! Even outside the industry!

Venture said...

Oh and Anzo, this is absolutely real. Trust me.

Anonymous said...

Damn man, danja and tim made classic stuff, since Tim came back in 2006 virtually all his hot shit has been with Mr Danjahandz. they both DEFINATELY bring out the best in each other...

I hope that Danja will contunie to grow, and im hesitant to the idea that mr HUMBLE HANDZ/DANJA HANDZ would turn his back on the people that made him...but really who knows?

Mike is a fool, who needs to keep his focus on his own business, TIMBALAND has loose people around him speaking Sh**. I would'nt have that...

I like SOME/a little of Wizz Dumbs stuff, he has a way to go, im sure he will become great though...

This is a sad day for music...

Venture said...

Please keep the comments everyone! We all know you all have a lot to say. Even if its anoms.

Anonymous said...

Tim/Fauntleroy tracks. best tim songs in AGES!!

Anonymous said...

I agree tims had loads of late good tracks such as the Tim & Fauntleroy tracks, Chris Cornell, and the random joints like the Keri Hilson tracks, etc etc... not to mention a few hits like Elevator!

Anonymous said...

Average handz and wizz garbage need to stop...without tim they are nothing...and lol at somebody saying cali stylz or whatever is name is is hot...lmao go back to bed

Unknown said...

timnmagoo3 go to bed nigga cause u prob garbage and mad cause u can't be timbos arron boy like u wanted to lol!

Venture said...

Oh oh... this ain't looking good. Shots have been fired.

"errand"... thats the word you were looking for

never mind me!

Moe said...

Tim & Danja really changed the sound of Pop when they worked together on Nelly Furtado n Timberlake. And Tim did gave Danja his break, producing for every godamn artists on the planet. Im not sure whats the beef is all about but hope they keep on making good music and working together someday. Its time for NARS to shine!

Venture said...

I will continue to rep both camps.

epic said...

shots been fired, what you talkin bout dude

Venture said...

Read a few comments up... the comment made by user "marcus".

Unknown said...

Real talk Wizz Dumb is like my brother and to have timnmagoo3 hate on everbody in the camp but Tim is something bitches do that nigga mad cause he's not where they are. Everybody else on here if they didnt like what wizz or whoever is doing musically they are respectful but that faggot always got something negative to say. Bruh keep your hating ass comments to yourself pussy and holla at me if u got something to say nigga. www.twitter.com/Kingstyle anyway thanks for your support and opinions!

Venture said...
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Venture said...

Kingstyle? I knew that was you! Wuddup ni...

*remembers I'm crew*

I mean... what up dude?



I had a clue that was you. I was like "I remember hearing that name lately!" 

You two are going in! I'm just going to sit back, grab a helmet and eat some popcorn!

Venture said...
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Venture said...
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Venture said...

*puts moderator mask on*



Wait! That ain't right thing to do on my part! timnmagoo3, you're entitled to your opinion, kingstyle so are you, but yall need to shut up and stick to topic. I can't let this out of hand. I'm letting these comments stay for a laugh, but no more!

If you want to praise, bash, etc... Wizz Dumb go here: http://www.thetimbalandbuzz.com/2009/07/to-clear-up-some-things.html

There you two can peacefully battle your opinions without getting nasty on both ends, or I'm going to have to do some cleaning up.



Thank you!


@_@

Anonymous said...

@ Frederick:
LMFAO! i couldnt understand it either! LMFAO

&& I think the james Fauntleroy & Timbaland joints were fucking fire!!! gahhh thats what i likee


ok heres what i read:
"Danja Handz let 1man mess up the chemistry and relationships with people that MADE him Larry Live Mike daddy Evans Timbo stay tuned"

I get this: "Danja Handz let 1man mess up the chemistry and relationships with people that MADE him"

that i can understand...but when it gets to all the names and stuff i got lost...what do all the names mean??!?! someone said something about Mike daddy being a lawyer? im so confusedd!

Unknown said...

well i been speaking to someone about this and i cant say what i know. all i can say is tut tut mr danja :(

Unknown said...

i would like to add that i am probably the only person here who wont miss the timbo/danja colab. why? because right now im listening to bubba sparxx deliverance album and this album shits all over anything tim and danja did together IMHO.

For me, danja just made timbo more simpler and main stream. i prefer the old tim tbh.

Anonymous said...

this shit is GHEY... issues wit Tim and Danja is not changing the world... IF YOU DO MUSIC LETS FILL THE VOID PEPOLE!!!

Anonymous said...

"and lol at somebody saying cali stylz or whatever is name is is hot...lmao go back to bed"

haha that's so true!

Big-A said...

Mike Daddy runs Timbaland Productions (together with Bill Pettaway). Very cool dudes, met them all already. Mike is a close Diddy friend too.

Venture said...

Clean up was done here.

Anonymous said...

awww venture i wanted marcus to read what i said...he could of tweeted his bro about it lol

N.L.O said...

oh lord... X_x

Venture said...

Discuss Wizz_Dumb here:

http://www.thetimbalandbuzz.com/2009/07/to-clear-up-some-things.html

Don't be nasty, there are a million plus ways to put things without being nasty, and a million plus ways to be nasty. Lets not go with the latter.

Frederick said...

To be honest, even though I used to be a heavy Danja stan, he stopped being the megaproducer with 5 hits out at the same time... and I was able to expand my musical interests over the past half-year or so. While doing that I was able to delve into Tim's older repertoire which included finally getting into more of Missy's seminal records, and Tim was just a beast on all of it!

So, I'll agree with jonneymendoza that the Danja-Tim collaboration won't be missed. The music that they did together isn't going anywhere, and neither of them is going to stop just because of this. No biggie. To be honest, though, I saw this coming when the two had their little tiff over the Britney Spears thing. Danja bit off more than he should have been chewing.

PS. you guys are messed up for not liking the Fauntleroy tracks. and those who do, you're alright!

PPS. Timbaland never had a period in his whole career where you could doubt his sound! even now in 2009, the Cornell album was solid, and his work recently wasn't all as bad as some fans made it to be. compare to other producers who bite themselves for inspiration and have the same sound over and over in every track: same drums, guitars, synths, sfx. Tim could pull one out with all the samples, if he wanted, but he's looking out for his financial stability right now. we all know samples have to be cleared, and Tim hasn't been the best at that.
might sound like i'm taking shots at Danja, and i kinda am, dude has "talent" but some of his tracks sound the same! not hatin though just observing!!!

Haze said...

whoa nearly 80 comments? holy shit. Well not liking the hating, i know ppl are entitled to their opinion but dont have to nasty about it. HEATED!

I don't think Timbo and Danja need each other now though, but they do work well together...

As for the J Fauntleroy tracks with timbo, they are ok, but clearly demos. Intro to "Home" is sik!

Venture said...

81 now. ;)

Haze said...

^^ well not including the deleted comments

Venture said...

he he he me cleany cleany!

Sad day for great production though.

Anonymous said...

totally correct there....the J Fauntleroy tracks with timbo are great...the harmonys and beats are def great...demo tracks or not...its better than anything danja has done...

Anonymous said...

"Believer" and "Home" are the shiiit!

Anonymous said...

i dont like the tracks that tim and faunt did together... but that has NOTHING to do with this mess here...

Tim will always be a legend...

I hope Danja didn't turn stank on his friends by the influence of someone else...

Anonymous said...

Im sure everything will be open in the future and everybody will know exactly what happens, obviously both sides of the story will be OUT!
What Happened with the Britney stuff before? i didnt know?

HHhhmm...crazy shit though...tim is hot so is danja, Danja has alot of time on Timbo, but at the moment tim is better, time will tell with Danja...Tim's old stuff is liek...EPIC!

Beep me 911....get ya freak on, Cry me a river, Supafly, Ugly, get on the bus...

it takes time toi get classics like that!

Black Arrow said...

Well, I'll continue to support both camps.
They both are great artists and I bet they are going to produce great music in the future.

Anonymous said...

ooooh hmmm thanks Big-A! :)

Bassick said...

Okay, could somebody kindly explain the situation here? What *exactly* has happened between them to cause them to split? If you can't divulge any information about it, then consequently I can't really comment on it - I'd like to hear the full story. That twitter status doesn't tell me a great deal, to be honest.

Black Arrow said...

I mean, Danja is good and all. His style is crazy and different and I LOVE it.
But saying that he did in 5 years what Timbo did in 10?? That's just stupid. Danja is faaar away from reaching the status that Tim has!!

Black Arrow said...

@Nat: We don't know much, but from all the tweets of MikeDaddy I understand it like that. The lawyer of Danja gave him an advice and Danja took it. And somehow it messed up the chemistry and relationship to Tim's camp.
Just read all his tweets and maybe u understand a little what's going on.^^

Venture said...

Nat, yes it seems that Danja's lawyer either indirectly or directly convinced Danja to do something, act on something, or to not do something or not act on something. Whatever this something was, it burned major bridges with Tim, Tim's close friends, and the people who help put Danja on.

Mike Evans uses the words "stepping stone" in reference of how Danja's lawyer has used Danja. Mike even goes on to down Danja's character with such lines as referring to useless spending. So this mess up seems very touchy, and these burned bridges are scorched.

Stay tuned.

Mr. Rios said...

the truth?? i really don't care. The only fire that Danja did by himself in my opinion was miscommunication. The rest was garbage. It wasn't even worth downloading. it seemed like he just got on the florida band wagon. i hope Lago goes with him too along with her over compressed engineering!

Mr. Rios said...

oh but i will say this: Wiz Dum go hard man! he's cool

Mr. Rios said...

oh yeah... i do have to give Danja props for 2 keri tracks "knock u down" and "tell him th truth" hot tracks but only be cause Keri knew how to come off on them. Vocally and lyrically...

Unknown said...

Keri is a song writer first and foremost so shes bound to come out strong lyricaly on most of her songs.

Danja wont be missed. he far from tims status. Tim became an instant Hit has a producer. as soon as Pony from ginuwine came out, it was game over, Tim was already a legend back then.

the greatest question of all is can Danja maintain his momentum for 10-15 years like timbaland? others have failed such has neptunes and lil john who diddnt last long. where are they now ?

Haze said...

Are u kidding?? Lil Jon is still going strong and The Neptunes! Even listened to pitbulls singles lately? Doing very well. As for danja, his beats are CRAZZZYYY! u can deny We Takin Over is fucking CRAZZY!! There is shit loads of danja beats which are hot, I think someone needs to do some digging... :D

plus what's this comparing him to timbo? The guy needs time, he hasn't had that long in the mainstream yet like timbo.

Swandito said...

Jonneymendonza tell me you're not serious when you say that the neptunes didn't last long....


Back on topic it's really sad but hey it happens and i will continue to support both camp. Danja got the talent to become a legend as he already got classic albums under his belt so let's hope he can continue to improve and put his nars roster on the map.

And Timbo fell off a bit lately but i think that he'll be back with a new sound soon.

Anonymous said...

jonneymendoza you have epically failed with that Neptunes comment. If they failed how did they become the main producers on Hard Candy from Madonna, Executive Produced the Fast and Furious SDTK, Scored a major movie, Produced better quality tracks on the Ashlee Simpson album, get more album placements than Tim has, etc. God you are one dumb son of a bitch.

Frederick said...

lmfao!

The Neptunes also have twice the power of presence that Timbo does, because they're two separate people! Chad Hugo was doing Ashlee Simpson's album while Pharrell was most certainly working on either Madonna or something else. And, to be credited as one production superpower just makes them all the greater. Not to mention Pharrell slapped Tim and his co producers silly on Hard Candy. Chad Hugo did the same on Bittersweet World, almost forgot about that.

It's evident with Kenna still on The Neptunes' label that to them it's always been about the music and friends at the same time. That's what's up.

Anonymous said...

people lets REMEMBER the neptunes on Kelis's shit! Justin timberlakes first album is an all time classic! all them hits, clipse and justin on the same track! Noreaga, Clipse countless other albums....the Clones?

Shit Drop it like its hot...pass the couvosier, D.I.D.D.Y, hot in here, i would probably say they have more or at LEAST the same amount of classics as TIMBO!

jonneymendoza i am dissapointed in your ignorance, neptunes aint topping charts everyday, but do they need to...u really think they made SEEING SOUNDS to top charts>!>! hell no... come on man

Anonymous said...

oh yeah FREDRICK...i agree, neptunes are all about keeping it real...they dont sell out at all...Kenna, Mike E, old friends of theirs!

Anonymous said...

Lmao @ the neptunes haveing more classics than tim...now that's ignorant...remember pharell has rapped on a timbo track not the other way around....big white space ship,vulnerable...tim is way better than the tunes...come ont

Big-A said...

Lemme break it down for ya'll to get a better picture: David Ehrlich, Danja's lawyer, wasn't really the go-to-guy in the entertainment law before he linked up with Danja. That was most likely the time when all of Danja's contracts expired. His production deal with Timbo, his management deal, his publishing deal with Warner etc. It was David Ehrlich who orchestraded the new deal with Kobalt Publishing. It's a groundbreaking company. Those who are interested in the real music business, should learn more about it asap. Lemme just say this: it's mainly an administration deal and the publisher only gets about 10% for collecting Danja's money all over the world, while Warner-Chappell most likely took 50% from him if it was a regular deal. Sure Warner and other big companies like Universal, EMI play an more active role and open up more opportunities and help secure placements, whereas Danja and his team need to do more leg work now. But I think Danja trusts in his brand and is obviously still getting nice placements. So I think that deal paid of so far. His lawyer makes major dough with Danja now. He even helps administer his songs (and gets his percentages...) he most likely is also managing him full time since his law firm is more of a boutique company with small staff and small client list.

Of course there are always two sides to a story tho. I can totally understand Mike Daddy and his co-partners why they mad. They used to manage Danja. But I also can't blame Danja to try something. You gotta take major risks sometimes to win big.

Me as an artist or producer, I would never let a lawyer have so much influence over my business. They can and do fuck you up a lot of times. I dunno if this was smart what Danja did...time will tell...

Anonymous said...

yep danja is stupid...

Anonymous said...

jonneymendoza, you're a dumb twat.

U don't know nothing about The Neptunes as i can see...

Venture said...

Hello Big-A!

Yep! People in life in general should always analyze and evaluate situations and choices swiftly but carefully. These things can hurt you and others whom are dear to you.

What would be more important to you? More money, or keeping in with the ones who moved you all along and await for a down the road, or current award? Thats up to you to decide. Me personally, due to my morals, and my keen sense of what is right, what is wrong, and my neutralism, I'd most likely choose the "right" decision. But that "right" to you is your own "right".

Sometimes you must "leave" you, and check the situation on a third person level before going further in life.

Big-A needs to join us, but he too busy being a meany weany pants! :(

Ed said...

I just hope Danja keeps working with Jim Beanz, Keri Hilson and Candice Nelson after this... He needs their fresh melodies and harmonies

Big-A said...

what the hell is a meany weany pants? I'm a foreigner...

Venture said...

Meany weany pants is a saying... means you are a mean person. It was a jk though :D


@_@

Frederick said...

i gotta agree with timnmagoo. VULNERABLE is the shit, I need that on my iPod asap.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, that 10% publishing shit is WOW.

I can't say I blame Danja...I mean if you read or watch his interviews, he's a humble dude and always has been, so IDK why people are getting all "?!" about this. Just as a fan of Danja, I always thought he should step out of the shadow more, in all of his co-production w/ Tim, it was like he was flying wayyyy under the radar. The just-above average music listener still thinks it was all Timbo on the Timberlake and Furtado projects, and as a fan it's clear to me that Danja was responsible for a LARGE part of that sound. I really don't think those would have been hits without Danja's handz in the mix. Also, when you look at it, Danja really could have blown a lot more than he really has...he's had a couple bad breaks (single-wise) along the way. Britney Spears being GARBAGE at the VMAs, Chris Brown killing the Turntables single, and the horrible decision not to go w/ the "Migrate" single. Putting the $$$ side away (which is prob stupid), then I feel like it's definitely time for him to claim his own shine...he doesn't really need Timbo at this point, though Timbo's arrangement and drum skills are still tougher than his.

All in all, I feel like the part of Timbo's camp getting all salty are the ones being bitches. Danja's been more than grateful for Timbo putting him on, even though he's slyly asked in interview after interview what part he played in Timbo's new sound/success. If I'm in Danja's camp in anyway, the 10% publishing just makes the need to step out more than obvious.

Venture said...

You don't know the full story man, no need to call anyone bitches or anything out their name even if you knew the full story. There are other more intelligent ways to express emotions and views.

Frederick said...

another Chime-in: I was listening to Nelly Furtado's "Showtime", which just probably may be the best song Danja ever made by himself.

Anonymous said...

Showtime? Hellllll no man, lol.

Frederick said...

aite, well it's up there.

Anonymous said...

First off who is MikeDaddy? Secondly... Whoever he is sounds like a bitter betty. Danja has been more than humble since the start so "MikeDaddy" please shut the f*ck up. No one asked if he thought wizz dumb was better but he tossed that out there in a spiteful context against Danja anyway, so you know he mad. Once again.. Mikedaddy.. shut the f*ck up!. You a bitch my nigga! Keep sucking timbaland's dick like you are though. I'm sure it's good money.

Nothin against Wizz but, He's no Danja. Not a diss. Hell, even Scott Storch, Brian Kidd, Hannon, J-Roc, Tank, King, Static and all the other dudes that shaped "timbaland's" sound over the last decade or so aren't a Danja.

Black Arrow said...

^didn't you read the other comments? Mike Daddy is a close friend of Tim and also runs Timbaland Productions. And it's not a reason to insult him in that way you did when you have no idea who he is!! Keep it Down!

@Big-A: Thanks for clearing that up, man!!

@everybody: Did you read the newest tweet of Danja on Twitter??: "In the studio wit TIMBO!!! He got some shiit!!!" http://tinyurl.com/nqrxw9
Seems like they're good again...and this (maybe) means: Timbo and Danja together on Shock Value 2!!

Anonymous said...

Guys....forget anything u read...Look at Danjas Tweet:

NEWAGEROCKSTARSIn the studio wit TIMBO!!! He got some shiit!!!11 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

A split up realation looks different to me folks xD

YEEEAH :D

BeatF1ya

Anonymous said...

@BA lol einfach gleichzeitig xD

Venture said...

Yeah I seen that!

Anonymous said...

^lol What a mess.

Going back a bit... "remember pharell has rapped on a timbo track not the other way around"

Good, because Timbo is a terrible rapper. Pharrell's hot on the mic, though.

Anonymous said...

I cannot get over how many people all over myspace twitter and various web pages keep giving this dude wizz dumb the pass. this Dude is nowhere near as good as all of his timbaland counterparts in the camp. Be serious do your people really think his best production is competing with 06 danja? or 07 hannon? or a jim beanz? I say NO, look at his "crazy" vimeo video of his exclusive music. Did this really sound ground breaking? I give him no pass, he's in multi million dollar studio with all of tim's sounds... The Sound is not ground breaking.. no...

Anonymous said...

They are both dope and make great music together. I like how clowns say storch,kidd,hannon,danja shaped tim's sound really were you there tim has been in the game since around 93 before alot of the people mentioned also quit comparing tim and the neptunes i like them both tim more so they are all friends anyway, so who really cares.

Frederick said...

You can't help but compare Tim and the Neps when they both feature on the same CDs from Justified to Hard Candy. But, what you say is true. They both deserve credit for what they did themselves, and not to be constantly juxtaposed.

Anonymous said...

lol toosy u said pharell is nice on the mic? What are you retarded? Omg dude just stop...lmao what a retard! Lol

Anonymous said...

mike daddy runs timbalands production company singe handedly. he also manages jim beanz, who is tims on words is the next one up and would be the only reason he retire and passes his torch to. jim wrote on almost every song on shock value 2 and produced a bunch of stuff too.
danja fucked up and now he will stand alone. i can already tell you his days are numbered, he should just be happy he can live off of royalites of nelly furtado and justin timberlake for the rest of his days. jim beanz gonna surpass danja by next year, watch. difference is jims smart, he will do his own thing but not burn the bridge with tim and do stuff with him too. thats what danja shoulda done.
no point arguing now...watch and see. if shock value 2 does better then shock value 1, then it wont be about danja after all will it. tim can colaborate with a few people and make hits. hes the key, not danja

and hes shit broke now cos he letting his lawyer run his shit and rob him. karma. he screwed over mike daddy and larry live who put him on. hes never gonna have success unless he give them whats due.

im tellin you..danja is a thing of the past

AlSween said...

you mofos tip whoever is associated. does it really matter. you gonna like whatever is put out there via association. i miss the sound quality.