Okay, we've got task for all of you, the whole Timbaland community and every single Timbo fan!!As you already know, "If We Ever Meet Again" featuring Katy Perry is the next single of Timbaland's latest album Shock Value II.
And as you probably also know, Shock Value II isn't doing as good as it should be doing on the music market.
That's why we've got this task for y'all:
All Timbaland fans have to unite and advertize this track like crazy!!!
Request "If We Ever Meet Again" on radio stations, on music TV programs and tell your friends to do the same!!
Go to forums, blogs, twitter, myspace, facebook,.... and advertize the track!!
Hell...if you want, even go out on the street and tell it to everybody crossing your way. lol
Do what you want...just advertize Timbaland's next single "If We Ever Meet Again" featuring Katy Perry!!
The track is already on the playlist of Radio 1 UK.
Contact them and request "If We Ever Meet Again" featuring Katy Perry!!
Thanks.
40 Comment(s):
uh..... so we're officially a Street Team now? no thanks.
It isn't doing good, because it is a mediocre album. I can not promote something I do not like, that isn't being real to myself. I'm as real as it gets.
If this was Shock Value, I would say ok, and promote for nothing, but I'm not promoting water, where there are many other great drinks in the vendor.
that's what I call real Timbaland fans lmao (IRONY!!!!)
writing a few mails really doesnt hurt. Even if Im not feeling the album that much, Im still a big Timbaland fan. thats what counts and thats why I try to support him.
man negativity here is depressing. Well i for one will try my best to promote it, although i'm confused what about "Carry Out" being a single? Anyway i think "Meet In The Middle" would be a better single.
I think this song is ok, and would do well with better promotion.
Thanks for your support... not.
Fans are fans because they like what the person/thing/place/etc... does. If a fan is disappointed, they should not be obligated to support what they aren't feeling. That's a blind fan.
I'm a fan of Microsoft, but I prefer Snow Leopard over Windows 7, I prefer my iPod Touch and iPod Nano over the Zune collection, so I must buy Windows 7 and a Zune HD? Get out of here with that logic. Now you want me to spread the word about Windows 7 and a Zune HD, when I for one) don't own neither, and for certain two) not liking its services atm.
When Tim, Microsoft, delivers next time, believe I'm purchasing the album/buying Windows 8, Zune HD 2, etc...
Contrary, if you are a fan, and like what you HEAR, please support this album because this time it really needs you, the fans who like what they are hearing. Tim needs the help.
to be honest i just want Timbo to do well, as a fan, i can't say that is a blind fan...
plus i think Apple shits all over Microsoft :D
I want him to do well, but when he isn't meeting what I've love and enjoyed over the years, then I get lost in the fray as a fan. They got to know when there fans aren't liking something. How will they know if everyone buys it?
Beethoven would know something was wrong if people didn't come to his shows. Imagine if all that showed up didn't like his current symphony, yet they clapped, spread the world, etc... they are lying to themselves and not helping the cause.
Truth is, artist sell, artist don't sell. There are reasons why Linkin Park lost some fans, because those fans grew up with that Alt Rock sound, but when MtM came out,, they left, but not for good, awaiting LP to go back to their roots.
Bottom line, if you don't like, you don't buy. I hope that when I do become successful in this business, and my fan base doesn't like my CD, they let me know tactfully.
I stand by what I said before, SV1 is not as good as what people like to claim just because they listen to "Way I Are" too much. Just ask JBoggie what he thought of the first shock value. Big-a gave it a 6.5/10 and for once I agree with him. Obviously it's all about opinions but I dont think SV2 is selling less than it should because the album is wack. His hip-hop fans might have deserted him because they simply cant stand for anything other than hip-hop. I'll use Chris Cornell album again as a very good example of how people didn't get it. Remember, SV1 is more hip-hop than SV2 which is more pop/rock based. Different albums so it's hard to compare different sounds. Tim has taken a different direction and a risk somewhat, at the moment it's backfiring.
I went back to listen to SV1 last night for the first time in a long time. Almost half of the tracks I skipped because honestly it's kinda of a bore.
SV2 is not rubbish, people exaggerate too much. There are some catchy tunes on that album. It's not a protest against mediocrity if you simply dismiss this album or refuse to promote it so try not to overreact.
As for "If We Ever Meet Again." I'll do all I can to promote it. At first I thought it was kinda wack but it's starting to grow on me a little. It does sound like a tune you would hear repeatedly on radio but I still dont think it should be a single anyway.
Dont forget to check out Timbo interview with DJ Feli Fell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQFgh5Vc1AQ
Your opening statement loses credibility and shows bias in your argument: "SV1 is not as good as what people like to claim just because they listen to "Way I Are" too much."
Remember, everyone has a right to their own opinion, and if someone likes Sv1, Sv2, etc... or dislikes, there doesn't have to automatically have to be "exaggeration" or "hate", etc... what have you. Everyone in the world has different ears, all because you or I have opposing or disposing views doesn't mean other opinionated parties are incorrect or correct for the matter thereof.
And specially don't try to support your opinion with other peoples thoughts, it just makes your own opinion seem weak, and need of support.
Basically in lamen terms... you like, support, you don't like... don't support... there shouldn't be a special algorithm to this. Its really simple.
Me personally? Sv1 > Sv2. My views have nothing to do with the genres used on Sv2, he could of done all ambient material for all I care... its just this album feels very flat to me. Sv1 wasn't great, but just look at the success it had, the singles that hit, and stuck like snow in December... Sv2 tried to stick, no accumulation, and the kids had class the next day.
+1 for Venture's comments.
it's not about genre for me either. there's nothing new here. no spirit. bland music we've heard elsewhere before.
The simple truth is, a lot of people are not feeling the album because apart from a couple tracks, it does not sound like a Timbaland influenced album. not because its not Hip-Hop or whatever. Danja the wise...
I ain't wanna say it...
Ofcourse it's about genre. SV1 has an advantage in that it was mainly Hip-hop so it was too easy for Tim. SV1 had plenty of hip-hop that gave it a simple, knocking beat which satisfied fans like you. However, Tim got bored and said he wants to make something he hasn't done yet. Tim mixed it up so much on SV2 even on each individual song. That was a risk he took, you had even hip-hop/rock on some of those tracks. You will say you're simply not feeling it and it's stuff you would hear all the time in the past. Really? IF that's the case, then all the shit you heard before must be really wack! lol Remember too, the music has to fit the voice and that's exactly what he done on SV2.
@Venture ofcourse I'm biased. Obviously, I'm giving you my perspective from a different ear. Like you say everyone has liking to their own taste. I'm giving you my honest opinion about how complex it actually is comparing those 2 albums than what you claim.
Look at this way venture, no "Way I Are" or "Bounce" or "Miscommunication" you end up with what? The rest just seem standard music (most of which is hip-hop) you've heard before aswell. Go back and listen to it again, compare the rock tracks on SV1 to SV2. In my opinion, the tracks SV2 has a more cohesive rock sound than the ones on SV1.
Also, take your favorite SV2 tracks and say which ones you would replace them with on SV1. Dont tell me none because I'm sure there is. I would pick atleast 5 or 6 tracks from SV2 and have them on SV1, you end up with the best album Tim has ever done! Therefore, for some of you to say this album is rubbish is complete nonsense.
You wanna talk about sales? I get tired of repeating myself but I'll say it again, the music business is so laughable you have the most bizarre and dreadful songs selling but that's the world we live in, people like that kind of music? Fine but like Tim would say they're not really "appreciating" music anymore. Music has been dumbed down recently so much which explains why you have Black Eyed Peas at the top of the charts. Complete joke!
Music is subjective. Art is subjective.
Every album has stand out tracks, and not so stand out tracks. Even thriller didn't have all stand out tracks.
I said to ME, the genre doesn't matter.
Your opinions are very condescending and demanding to other peoples opinions.
I'm done.
@ Mr Know It All aka you know who you you are.
There are fans and there are stans... Respect other peoples opinions.
I dont faver one genre over another, so to me SV2 is what it is. It seems some people think they know what is what, and the rest of us are mindless drones,their opinions, sorry statements are correct and yours false. Boring...
You dont feel SV2 has stand out tracks? I'm betting you'll find even the most critical of this album have a track that they like.
I'm only condescending to people even in their milions who buy shit music. Next thing you'll know, "Teletubbies" will be back at the top of the charts. I cant take such people seriously if they're not "appreciating" good music and killing the industry. If Black Eyed Peas are at the top, then everybody else seeking a breakthrough who have REAL talent, can kiss goodbye to their careers.
I'm done aswell.
@Lez Carmen from me "Mr Know It All" lol
I'm sorry if you got the wrong impression. In my comments I said plenty of times "in my opinion", "I think" so dont get upset when I counter your very vague argument that this album is rubbish.
whoa alot to read.
(My Opinion :D)
i think timbo sorta went for too much of a broader audience on SV2, which in the end didnt work as a composition combined. The fact is tracks on SV2 are mostly decent, but collections of different genres on a album seem to not sell that much for some reason... And only true stand out track for me is the first single 'Morning After Dark", i doubt anything else will do well in the charts... maybe "Carry Out" will do alrite...
I know ill get a critical commentary on my opinion... bring it on :D
@Bliza If you want to know what I thought about SV2 search the blog for my review and opinions about the tracks.
I agree with Luke... MAD was the most stand out track on the album, the reason why I don't listen to it anymore? Nelly was put on... no thanks... I love Nelly, but not on that track. Blah...
@Lez Carmen I just read your review of every track. You've given alot of positive reviews to most of the tracks even the Miley Cyrus track which is my least favorite. This discredits the point that this album is weak. I dont expect you to like every track just like I'm sure many like me didn't like some of the songs so much on SV1. Like I said before, those who say SV2 is rubbish when they enjoyed some of the tracks are talking nonsense.
I'm curious now as to whether you were refering to Venture as "Mr Know It All", my bad lol.
MAD, Carry Out, Can You Feel It, Tomorrow in a Bottle, Symphony, Undertow, Intro, Ease of the Liqour/Say Something (in the car) are really catchy tunes. The rest are ok which the same could be said about some on SV1. Sv2 rubbish? I dont think so. Atleast dont use the word "rubbish". If Shock Value > Shock Value 2? Fair enough.
@Bliza
Don't even bother trying to compare Shock Value 1 to Shock Value 2.
Take the first single "Give It To Me", number one worldwide.
The second single, "The Way I Are"? Also number one worldwide.
The third single, "Apologize" also did great worldwide and did crazy numbers online.
Those are just the first three singles, "Bounce", "Fantasy" and "Scream" were also great tunes.
Theres not a single track on Shock Value 2 that's better than any of those six.
If you want my advise, DON'T go out of your way to support Timbo's new single. Only when this album becomes a flop that he'll step up his game.
@Rune
Give It To Me - vocals are terrible. Beat is crazy when u first hear it but this day and age, it's standard Tim beat.
Scream, Fantasy? Nothing remarkable about those tracks, in fact they're becoming boring. I tried listening to them last night, forgettable now. I'd have the tracks I mentioned above ahead of those but that's just my opinion.
Way I Are, Apologize, Bounce and Miscommunication makes SV1 > SV2. My argument is not that SV2 is an amazing album but for people to call it rubbish is an exaggeration and is where I take issue. Try and understand the album for what it is. Comparing and having this fixation with those SV1 tracks u mention doesn't help you liking SV2.
I say neither SV1 or SV2 is as good as his old stuff anyway lol.
Let me give an illustration of what 'Shock Value' really looks when extracting tracks from both albums. If u wanna compare, here goes:
Way I Are
Bounce
Apologize
Miscommunication
MAD (beat) > Give It To Me
Carry Out > Release (I'd have Release though)
Can You Feel It > Fantasy
Tomorrow in a Bottle > One And Only
Undertow > Scream
Ease of the Liqour >= Oh Timbaland
Symphony > Come And Get Me
Marching On > Throw It On Me
Come Around
The rest are debatable...
SV2 doesnt look too bad now does it? Tim does say it's a continuation of the last Shock Value. Pick ur best tracks and suddenly it looks crazy!
Rune is telling the truth. Numbers don't lie. People do.
@Bliza
Like Venture said, numbers don't lie. I understand what you said is your opinion and you're entitled to that. If we were gonna discuss opinions, I would have also told you that "Bombay", "Hello" and "Laugh At 'Em Remix" were great tracks too cuz I personally love them. I'm only basing what I've said on what the majority thinks.
As for your comparison of the tracks in your last comment, its a clearly a bit biased.
Why compare "Marching On" with "Throw It On Me"? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to compare it to "Apologize"?
Any why would you say the "Morning After Dark" beat makes it a better track than "Give It To Me"? With that logic, Chris Cornell's album would have been double platinum by now.
I'm not exactly comparing tracks in term of whether they are singles and which tracks sold more and various numbers you wanna bring up. All I'm saying there are some tracks on SV2 I would replace with some on SV1. I admit SV1 is better than SV2 but SV2 is NOT a terrible album.
I take back Marchin On, ofcourse I aint gonna compare it to Apologize because that track may never be surpassed. Marching On is a good track though.
@Rune I agree I like those tracks aswell, in a 17 tracklist album that would complete the set for 'Shock Value' I listed above. However, we're not gonna include too many Bonus tracks. Come Around is too good not to include though lol. However, if you wanna include those bonus track we end up with:
Way I Are
Miscommunication
Bounce
Apologize
Bombay
Come Around
Hello
Laff at Em
..leaving a slot for another 9 tracks.
You have atleast 8 tracks from SV1 and 5 or 6 maximum in my opinion could come from SV2 because I think they're bloody good lol.
As for MAD being better than Give It Me. Listen to both instrumentals, I think MAD has a more modern ring to it. Give It To Me is some beat Tim would have done 10 years ago. Me biased? Ofcourse, because I still haven't got enough of listening to SV2 since its release.
There's no disagreement in saying the first album is better than the new one. What I don't agree with is the fact that you listed tracks like "Can You Feel It", "Symphony" and "Say Something" as catchy and calling the rest of them ok, and then you went on to say "same could be said about some on SV1". Sorry but that's just not the same as Shock Value 1. The first album was on another level. I mean, the last album sold an extra 100k on its chart debut. SV2 is doing so bad that I still havent got a hold of a copy yet. Not because I dont want it, but because all the shops I go to only hold the top 40 here in the UK and SV2 is number 60 right now.
I know "Give It To Me" has a weak beat but the beat alone doesnt make a great record. Nelly's "Promiscuous" had an average beat too but that was a monster summer hit and the same could be said about "Give It To Me".
So yeah, Give It To Me>MAD anyday.
What I meant with the "Marching On" and "Apologize" comparison was that they're both tracks by OneRepublic from their own album, and then remixed for the Shock Value record. So its a bit blatant that one is the follow up of the other. And when you compare the two, "Apologize" will always come out on top.
The obvious problem with SV2 was that there was no Danja but I think we're missing Justin and Keri's input as well cuz we got a lot more of those two on the previous album. And we all know how good their melodies and songwriting skills are.
You dont need to get it in stores, just order it online like I did lol. Top 40 UK? I have to say I dont listen to radio no more because I think there is too much garbage on there apart from a few.
SV2 takes time getting used to. People hear it once and they walk off but I dont necessarily blame them because music sometimes needs to have an instant effect on you to like it and I'm no different. At first listen, I thought nothing special but being such a big fan, I put it on repeat for whole day, I tell ya every track is better than most stuff that's currently selling.
Lets see where it ends up in a few months. It doesn't look great but me personally I'm not bothered about sales. I've never showed any interest in a song just because it happens to sell alot. Many Timbaland tracks in the past underachieved and if you were to listen to them now, they still sound fresh even today. I'd go as far as saying better than anything he done with Danja.
Pick ur least favorite tracks on SV1 and ur favorites on SV2 then you'll see what I mean.
Play these tracks:
Intro
Carry Out (surely no?)
Can you Feel It
Tomorrow In The Bottle
MAD
Symphony
..and anything else u may like.
It is a biased opinion but just tell me if those tracks aint good enough to be on SV1, then we'll agree to disagree lol.
The Intro had a good beat but its what its meant to be, an intro and nothing more so I dont really consider it a track.
I'm just not feeling "Can You Feel It" (no pun intended lol) and "Symphony", and "Morning After Dark" sounds like something that would make a good lead single for someone elses album but not Timbo's. Kinda like how "4 Minutes" with Madonna was a great track for a single but not Shock Value quality. I see MAD as a similar track. Probably would have been a great single to launch SoShy's own album and career.
"Carry Out" and "Tomorrow In A Bottle" are hot tracks though and IMO the only two that would make it into SV1.
What's weird though is that when you think about all the leaked tracks like "Talk That Shit", "Say" with T-Pain, "Back Together", etc, they're arguably better than half of the tracks on Shock Value 2. When I look at the final tracklisting, I cant help but think the whole idea behind the record was to simply gather all the hottest (or most current) artists at the moment and make a track with all of them.
Why has Timbo got the likes of (and no offence to them) JoJo, Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, Drake (yes I dont rate him) and dumped people like Danja, Magoo, Missy, T-Pain, etc?
Well trying out other artists isnt bad. I know what you're thinking, if one way works why change it, why not use your tried and trusted but Tim has proved his ability to work with anyone in the game. He showed off his capabilities as producer outside his comfort zone which is mainly hip-hop. With the artists he got on board on this project, he had to create something that suited the artist.
I agree those demo tracks with Fauntleroy, T-Pain are crazy and would have been worth putting them on SV2. I think he might be saving them for other projects though.
Drake is good creating melodies and catchy hooks, but I dont think he's one of the best rappers I've ever heard. Too much hype regarding his rapping talents.
I think I'm in a minority who thinks "4 minutes" is wack lol. "MAD" is way more fun. "Can You Feel It" is my favorite track on SV2 lol, sounds amazing in the car or in the club, just vibe to it u know especially on the bridge part of the song, then on to the hook.
We'll agree to disagree regarding SV2 lol. Thanks for the debate.
Yeah, cool. Its totally understandable if you personally love SV2. Hey, I have albums I know that were considered poor but I personally love.
The one thing we could definately agree on is that I hope Timbo's next project, whatever it is, is a lot better than SV2.
@Bliza
Like I said at the beginning of my review, I gave a "honest" review of the tracks, with opinions on the positive "aspects" of each of the tracks. Why you try to make out that I liked the Miley track or I said that the album was crap I don't know. Liking tracks and liking the album as a whole is a different story.
I also take it you did not read my whole review, which I had to post twice because it was too long.
I am a fan, not a follower. You come across as a preacher type rather than a debater. There's No need to preach and preach and try to sway peoples opinions with essay after essay. Respect other peoples opinions and don't be a stan.
Anyway I'm of to Paris, be good...
@Lez Carmen ur way too sensitive boy. Relax, debating is about pursuading and puttting ur argument across. I didn't direct it at you that you thought it was rubbish. All I said *people* who think this album is rubbish are exaggerating.
I could quite easily copy/paste ur essay review about SV2 on here to prove your contradictory conclusion. Positive review on each tracks (apart from a few), then going on to saying this doesn't feel like a Timbaland album. I think everyone knows that even a "stan" like me which makes him stand out as a producer. If you dont like it fine, I respect ur opinion, it's not like I'm here insulting you and taking an aggressive tone. Chill bro. If I'm a stan, then I would have liked every track on SV1 and even SV2 for that matter but that's not the case. Have fun in Paris. au revoir.
@Bilza
LOL You are seriously a piece of work. You try to make out people are overly sensitive, aggressive, contradictory etc, just to make yourself seem calm, civilized and correct but, all you succeed in doing is revealing yourself as facile and a Mr. know it all, its hilarious.
You see what you want to see in someone else’s opinions, rather than what they are really trying to say, and more than often misconstrue peoples words. I guess it’s just the way your mind works. Please, feel free to copy and paste my review to your heart's content. TO ME THIS DOES NOT FEEL LIKE A TIMBALAND INFLUENCED ALBUM, and In no way at all have I contradicted myself. Specifically picking that quote to try to make me look like I have contradicted myself and discredit me, makes me chuckle. I think you need to revisit the meaning of the word contradictive. “you” stated in your last comment towards me that you “are” in fact a stan, then you go on to say “if” I’m a stan. Now that’s called being contradictive, not me reviewing and saying what a thought of the tracks themselves, then giving my opinion on what I thought about the album as a whole. Once again listen carefully... (Reviewing and talking about tracks and saying what you thought about an album has a “whole”, is a different thing altogether)
This is actually a waste of time, you’ve already shown what type of character you are, so attempting to debate with a person such as yourself is like a mutt chasing its tail... Utterly pointless. I’m sure you will feel compelled to reply back with some sort of diarrhea coated, preachy, upper crust comment, just to satisfy your need to feel in control. More power to you. Me, I’m done here.
P.S. I was, and I am calm as a warm summer’s breeze...
@Lez Carmen lets just say you dont really know me and leave it that. You're simply judging my character because I happen to disagree you about SV2, too busy making up theories about me. I suggest you stop, rewind and go back and read what I said. Dont jump to conclusions about me, I might be preaching (whatever u wanna call it) but it's still my opinion.
btw when I said stan I qouted ur reference to me with a bit of sarcasm.
Goodbye.
Oh Lord, look what I done started. Please keep it clean and nice folks.
I'm sorry but I don't want Tim getting the impression that I actually liked Shock Value 2. I don't know what I'd do if his next album continued the path he is on now. I'd prefer he chock it up as a loss and get back to innovating instead of trying to cash in on established artists and watering them down.
I didn't like shock value 1 much overall but in comparison SV1 is a couple leagues above SV2. "Way I Are" was a undeniable hit. Point blank.
The story tells itself when Justin Timberlake,Nelly Furtado and Drake assist with singles and each one flops back to back. Those guys are huge and didn't go nowhere.
Shock Value 2 hasn't sold 100,000 units domestically from what I understand. This Katy Perry single isn't going to help. "Kissed a Girl" is the level of quality/catchiness Katy Perry fans want from her and that shit aint nowhere close. It will get ignored and forgotten.
True.
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